seit Wochen Packet Loss, Upload schlecht und Spielball zwischen Hotline und externen Technikern.

[Marukka]

Hallo,

ich hoffe ich finde auf diesem Wege mal einen "Kümmerer" der sich meinem Problem annimmt. Seit Wochen ist bei meinem und allen Anschlüssen der Nachbarschaft bzw. dem Stadtteil der Upload nicht konstant, der Packet Loss und Ping inakzeptabel und alle Anschlüsse bzw. Router können nicht von Vodafone oder dem Speedtest gesehen werden.

Ich hatte bereits einen Techniker im Haus der das auch bestätigt hat, hat es aber in den Bericht nur intern für seine Dienstleister Firma vermerkt.

Diese Firma verwies mich an die Vodafone Hotline zurück, da es ein NE3 Problem sei und dies von Vodafone gelöst werden muss. Die Hotline verwies mich wieder an die BKS Solution Firma. So geht es seit geraumer Zeit.

Das kann doch nicht sein das hier bei einem Weltkonzern derart ohne Weitblick gehandelt wird und Techniker Einsatz um Einsatz rausgehauen wird, statt mal mit einander zu reden.

Mir geht es eigentlich nur noch darum das man mir jetzt mal klar sagt wie es weiter geht und wann ich wieder einen normalen Anschluss zur Verfügung haben werde.

Der Techniker sagte mir auch er ist jeden Tag hier im Einsatz nur immer bei einer anderen Hausnummer aber alle haben das gleiche Problem. Es haben wahrscheinlich nur nicht alle gemeldet weil, da der Download i.O. ist merkt es eventuell nicht jeder gleich.

• In welchem Bundesland wohnst Du? Sende bitte auch die Postleitzahl       
• Baden-Württemberg, 79539
• Welchen Vertrag hast Du? (z.B. Internet + Telefon 100)
• Red Internet und Phone 250 Cable

• Welches Modem/ Router nutzt Du? (z.B. Hitron)
  
• Speedbox 6660 Cable , bin sogar umgestiegen von der Speedbox 7490  Cable - gleicher Effekt
• Nutzt Du ein Leih-Gerät von uns oder hast Du ein eigenes Gerät?
• Leihgerät seit ein zwei Wochen
• Welcher Fehler tritt auf? (Geschwindigkeit zu gering; Packetloss) Schicke dazu auch Screenshots von Speedtests (mit Datum und Uhrzeit) und Tracerts/ Pingplotter-Messungen bei Packetloss oder Ping-Problemen. Stelle beim Pingplotter 2,5 Sekunden beim Intervall ein und nutze betroffene Dienste als Ziel.
• Packetloss, Ping schankt enorm (online Spiele teils unspielbar). Upload nur ganz früh oder ausserhalb der Hauptzeiten an der max Marke von 50.
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• Wie ist Dein Endgerät mit dem Modem verbunden? (LAN; WLAN; zusätzlicher Router; PowerLAN)
• LAN
• Beginn und Zeitraum der Störung (z.B: seit Anfang April; nur am Abend)
• Fast den ganzen Mai schon , extrem spürbar in den Hauptzeiten Mittags und Abends
• Lade dazu noch einen Screenshot von den Signalwerten hoch. Diese findest Du in der Benutzeroberfläche Deines Kabelrouters über 192.168.0.1 bzw. über 192.168.178.1 bei der Fritzbox.
• 
• Welche Maßnahmen wurden durch die Störungshotline (erreichbar unter 0800-5266625 für Vodafone Kabel Deutschland bzw. 0221/46619100 für Vodafone West) durchgeführt?
• Siehe Text am Anfang.  Ticket auf Ticket zu, dann Techniker am 21.5. im Haus, Störung globaler Natur in der Strasse/Haus/Nachbarschaft, Nachfrage ext.Dienstleister, neues Ticket Vodafone, Ticket heute wieder geschlossen ohne Aktion, Dienstleister klärt intern verweist aber an Vodafone zurück.Trotz der vielen Wochen schon bin ich noch einigermaßen gefasst, allerdings dreht sich das jetzt langsam da das Gefühl aufkommt das es keiner ernst nimmer und lösen möchte. Brauche aber glaube nicht zu erwähnen das ich ja für eine Leistung zahle die ich schlicht nicht bekomme.Ich hoffe sehr auf eine Auskunft über den aktuellen Stand bzw. wie man hier jetzt weiter macht.Vielen Dank und mit freundlichen Grüßen

[Marukka]

Nach nun einigen besseren Tagen scheinen die Tage mit Lags & PacketLoss, hohem Ping und niedrigem Upload wieder die Oberhand zu gewinnen.

Daher hier paar aktuelle Screenshots, vielleicht hat ja jemand noch eine Idee die nicht wieder einen Techniker beinhaltet der meine Installation prüft. Bin immer noch sicher das es eine Überlastung oder Störquellen in der Primetime (also Mittags und Abends) gibt. Der Ping auf dem Speedtest Screenshot täuscht, während dem Test geht er munter von links nach rechts bis teil 250 -300.

Auffällig ist unter anderem das ich immer auf Kanal 25 nicht korrigierbare Fehler habe. Auf dem Screenshot ist der Reset des Routers keine 24h, davor sah es ähnlich aus, nur Kanal 25.  Auch habe ich Morgens als durchaus mehrere Kanäle in Senderichtung auf 64QAM aber in der Primetime schafft es fast keiner der Kanäle aus den 16QAM raus.

Auch habe ich mal einfach Google per Pingplotter im IPV6 angepingt und im IPV4. Den PacketLoss habe ich da nur im IPV6.

Also habe ich noch den IPV6 Test den "Kieferer" hier immer im Forum empfiehlt durchgeführt und das Ergebnis angehängt.

Vielleicht liefern die neuen Screenshots neue Erkenntnisse....wäre schön und ich wäre echt dankbar wenn jemand sich das nochmal anschauen könnte.  Vielen Dank.

[Kieferer]

Die Pegel passen so weit. Mit dem OFDMA läuft das ein wenig anders. Für 25MBits im Upstream ist das ausreichend. Bei 700MHz sind LTE Frequenzen. Die Störung ist nicht schön, jedoch minimal.

Ich gehe davon aus, dass du alles über LAN getestet hast.

Im Pingploter IPv4/6 hast du sehr hohe pings, aber keine Losses. Im IPv4 ist der ping mit >120ms astronomisch hoch, im IPv6 wesentlich geringer.

Das spricht für eine hohe – wovon auch immer, sei es der AFTR oder dein Segment – Auslastung, schon in der VF Gateway erster Hop nach der Schwitzbox ersichtlich.

Deine speedtests solltest du mit speedtest.net oder hier durchführen, bei mir ist der VF Speedtest fehlerhaft.

Als erstes, schaue in der Schwitzbox bei deinen Ereignissen -> Internet. Hast du reconnects im Log?

Schade, dass die VF Hotline, der Netz-Assi & Tobi dir nicht helfen können, böse Zungen behaupten, die VF Hotline wird zu einem Kundenabwehrzentrum umgebaut. In deinem Fall wurde der Umbau (mit Erfolg) bereits vollzogen. Hannes hat, sicherlich aus einem guten Grund, VF verlassen.

[Marukka]

Hallo Kieferer,

danke für deine Rückmeldung und das du dir ein Bild machst. Ich habe übrigens 50MBit Upload, hab die PowerUpload Funktion dazu.

Ja habe alles im LAN getestet. Der Vodafone Speedtest kommt immer besser weg, da er am Ende einen Wert anzeigt der kaum im Test vorkam, z.B. beim Ping, springt wie ab und zeigt dann tolle niedrige Werte.

Ich habe und hatte keine reconnects im Log. Dieses Problem ist mir zumindest erspart geblieben.

Der Witz ist, Tobi sagt mir seit Wochen es ist eine Störung bei mir und man arbeitet daran. Niemand sonst an der Hotline hat aber das auch sehen wollen, da hieß es schlicht "da weiß Tobi mehr als wir". Der Netzassi, zumindest unter dem Punkt "Internet langsam" findet auch nichts.  Ist ja eh nur Kabel rein Kabel raus.

Hätte mich ja über eine Aussage ala "Auslastung bei ihnen" schon gefreut aber da kommt einfach nichts.

Kann das hier keiner ehrlich nochmal weiter geben und mal prüfen ob bekannt, wann wird es angegangen usw....?

[Kieferer]

Dann muss ich mit der SC Modulation im Upstream etwas zurückrudern. 4x16 ist was wenig für 50MBits im Upload.

Da keiner, nicht mal Tobi noch die Mods, die Netzstörung nur annähernd beschreiben können, wird es spannend. Scheint Top Secret zu sein.

Aus einem deiner Posts hast du geschrieben, dass du den Sub angerufen hast. Nicht gut, lasse die Tickets von VF öffnen.

Eben ist mir aufgefallen, dass trotz erfolgreichen IPv6 Test, ein Ping mit IPv6 nicht ging. Das ist nicht normal.

[Marukka]

Die Tickets wurden stehts von VF eröffnet. Der Anruf war damals primär weil der erste Techniker die Störung dieser gesammten C-Linie nicht an die VF Techniker Hotline weitergegeben hat.  Der hat einfach ein Märchen in den Bericht geschrieben. Techniker 2 war da anders drauf und hat es brav gemeldet. Allerdings weiter ging es dadurch nicht.

Könnte sich bitte ein Mod nochmals hierzu äußern oder erkundigen? Es ist mehr als offensichtlich das hier was nicht passt. Wie gesagt, hatte 6 Jahre nie Probleme bis Anfang Mai und nun nach einigen besseren Tagen geht es wieder los wie über 90% der Zeit seit Anfang Mai. Kam aus dem nichts und niemand sagt etwas.

Wenn ich die Internet Verfügbarkeit hier checke kommt nur DSL16 MBit raus. Daher glaube ich das es noch immer oder wieder diese Störung von X Haushalten und deren Sichtbarkeit hier gibt. Man merkt es eben nur primär im Upload und beim spielen. Darum melden es vermutlich auch nicht alle, die die nur Serien streamen merken es nicht in der Form.

[Marukka]

Hier der iperf run von heute, gestern waren die Werte noch schlechter.

Würde sich bitte mal ein Mod nochmal die Sache an- oder der Sache annehmen?  Es ist eindeutig das hier nicht im Ansatz die Leistung erreicht wird die kommen sollte. Außerdem ist das Thema der Modulation das ich außer ganz früh Morgens und spät nachts kaum Upload habe, dadurch der Ping verrückt spielt und ich 90% der Zeit auf 16QAM rumeier. Genug Screenshots und Tests sind ja in den vorigen neuen Posts angehängt.

Wäre wirklich sehr dankbar, auch mal über eine Aussage was denn nun für Störungen hier in der Region sind. Ist es Auslastung, ist es in Arbeit, gibt es eine Zeitvorstellung bis zur Behebung.... irgendwas aber bitte wieder nichts oder nur auf Zeit durch hin und her vertrösten. Es frustet so zu stark.  Vielen Dank und liebe Grüße.

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[Kieferer]

Für 50MBit/s im Upload ist das nicht gut. 

[Marukka]

Liebe Mods,

könnte sich jemand nochmal anhand der neuen Screenshots, Pegel und Daten ein Bild machen oder eine Info einholen was hier ggf nicht i.O  ist?

Es wäre schon gut zu wissen wo man hier steht und was die Störung ist, die unter anderem meine Leitung derart beeinflusst.

Wäre euch sehr dankbar dafür.

[MariaK]

Ich habe mir Deinen Anschluss nochmal angeschaut und konnte ein paar Abweichungen bei den Upstream Werten finden. Wenn Du möchtest, kann ich nochmal ein Ticket für Dich erstellen. Etwas anderes kann ich leider nicht machen.

Viele Grüße,

Maria

[Kieferer]

...und warum sind:

1. Die Pings astronomisch hoch?
2. Warum gibt es zwischen den Ipv6 und IPv4 Pings solch große Unterschiede?
3. Kann man den OFDMA nicht testweise abdrehen?

Ob ein weiterer Besuch von einem "Techniker:in" zielführend ist, das ist auch eine offene Frage.