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Internet (Kabel) Jeden abend zu Langsam!
EliteBaer
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Hallo Community und Support

Langsam platzt mir echt der Kragen und ich könnte ausfallend werden.
Bekomme Abends nicht mal mehr 5% meiner Leistung von 400MB/s rein.
Der Upload ist normal!

Erstmal Infos für Support:
Vertrag: Red Internet & Phone 200+200 DOUBLE SPEED Cable Option 50Mb/s Upload
Router/Modem: CH7466CE
Leihgerät/ Eigenes Gerät: Auch schon getestet mit einem Asus GT-AC5300 und einem Cisco C1111-8P Lan Router
Fehler: Abends unter 10% Leistung ohne paketverlust. Powershell Speedtest wird angehangen.
Verbunden: Direkt über Lan (Cat 7)
Browser: Firefox, MS Edge, Chrome, Opera (Bei allen das selbe Resultat)
Betriebsystem: MS Windows 10 Pro (v. 1909 / Build 18363.720) // Und Linux mehrere Distributionen
Beginn/Zeitraum: schon seit dem ich den Vertrag habe circa 3 Jahre Jeden abend ab 17/18 Uhr
Signalwerte: Gleich im nachgangt.
Welche Maßnahmen durch Störungshotline: Unfähiges Personal dazu gleich mehr.

 

Gebündelte Downstreamkanäle
Kanal 	Frequenz (Hz) 	Signalstärke 	SNR 	Modulation 	Kanal ID
1	650000000	59	38	256qam	9
2	146000000	68	38	256qam	2
3	154000000	67	38	256qam	3
4	162000000	67	37	256qam	4
5	602000000	58	37	256qam	5
6	618000000	59	38	256qam	6
7	626000000	59	38	256qam	7
8	642000000	59	38	256qam	8
9	138000000	68	38	256qam	1
10	658000000	60	38	256qam	10
11	666000000	60	38	256qam	11
12	674000000	59	38	256qam	12
13	690000000	60	38	256qam	14
14	698000000	53	34	64qam	15
15	706000000	54	34	64qam	16
16	714000000	54	34	64qam	17
17	722000000	55	35	64qam	18
18	730000000	54	35	64qam	19
19	738000000	54	35	64qam	20
20	746000000	55	35	64qam	21
21	754000000	55	35	64qam	22
22	762000000	56	36	64qam	23
23	770000000	55	35	64qam	24
24	778000000	56	35	64qam	25

Gebündelte Upstreamkanäle
Kanal 	Frequenz (Hz) 	Signalstärke 	Modulation 	Symbolrate 	Kanal ID
1	52200000	105	64qam	5.120	2
2	36200000	103	64qam	5.120	4
3	45800000	105	64qam	5.120	3
4	58600000	105	64qam	5.120	1

Signale
Kanal ID 	Fehlerfreie Codewörter 	Korrigierbar insgesamt 	Nicht korrigierbar insgesamt
9	2082301807	52	10
2	1836726170	53923124	274430
3	1813167539	77590932	164008
4	1816210773	40428773	34279909
5	1890919182	142	13
6	1890923674	95	12
7	1890923710	99	1
8	1890919675	72	12
1	1844033875	46517624	371251
10	1890924070	56	0
11	1890921312	45	0
12	1890924104	76	0
14	1890920035	70	0
15	1418190422	19	0
16	1418186867	18	0
17	1418190719	28	0
18	1418190762	17	0
19	1418191271	17	0
20	1418191328	11	0
21	1418192121	3	0
22	1418194926	10	0
23	1418188284	7	0
24	1418195921	17	0
25	1418190799	17	0


So jetzt kommen wir mal zur Hotline.
Erstens solltet ihr euren Anruf roboter mal überarbeiten, der ist unter aller *** ich brauch allein dort schon 5 Minuten bis der Idiot mich mal versteht oder das macht was ich will. Zudem wenn er mich nicht versteht schmeißt er mich aus der Leitung. Das Agressionspotenzial und die Wut steigt. Solltet ihr vlt nochmal überdenken dann werden weniger Hotline Mitarbeiter angeschrien 😛

Die normale Hotline also Kundenhotline nimmt mein Ticket immer höfflich an und bearbeitet mein anliegen nach meinem Interesse. Das ist schonmal sehr löblich. Das die nicht mehr machen können ist auch klar.

ABER

Jetzt kommt das böse aber. Wenn ich bei der Störungshotline anrufe könnte ich bei JEDEM mitarbeiter durchs telefon fassen und ihm eine kleben.
Zum einen kaum IT Wissen vorhaben, Patzig und lustlos mein Problem zu bearbeiten und um es einfacher zu Formulieren "Mit einem Job in der Stadtreinigung wäre dennen besser geholfen und dort sind sie auch besser aufgehoben."

Ich selber Arbeite in der IT und finde es unfassbar unverschämt wie die Techniker bei der Hotline einfach unfähig sind. Wo ist den dort das Problem mit mit zusammen unter anleitung ein paar Test zu vollziehen um die Störungsquelle zu finden und diese zu beheben. Ich mache Tag täglich nichts anderes als Netzwerk analysen, Problem behandlungen und Netzwerkserver zu Optimieren DHCP & DNS.

Selbige Problem hatte ich schonmal als am alten Router das Wlan Modul Defekt war. Ich sag der guten Frau am Telefon das dieser besagte Chip Defekt ist das ich einen neuen Router brauche. Was macht diese Frau also.
Resetet meinen Router!!! Was ist das bitte für eine ***!!!

Naja, egal ist passiert ist vergangenheit ich hoffe nur in Zukunft läuft das besser.
Zu meinem Jetzigen Problem also. Ich habe als Problemsuche und Lösung schon folgendes gemacht:
1. Meine Lankabel getestet ob brüche oder Isolierung fehlt. Eventuelle Störsignale durch Stromkabel oder Lan Kabel ersetzt. Alles CAT.7 Kabel.
2. Anderen Router angeschlossen
3. DNS Flash & Reset / DNS Routing verändert / DHCP Zurück gesetzt & Manuell eingegeben
4. Mehrere Betriebsysteme auch komplett frische Systeme aufgesetzt nur für den Bandbreitentest
5. OnBoard Lan Adapter aber auch PCI Lan Adapter verwendet (Sogar 2 Neue gekauft um zu testen ob eine von mir Eventuell Kaputt ist)
6. Browser Wechsel um eventuelle zusatzprogramme auf dem Browser einzudämen die an der messung probleme hervorrufen.
7. Bandbreitenmessung auf: speedtest.unitymedia.de  Kundenportal Test Speedtest von Ookla wieistmeineip.de https://breitbandmessung.de/ 
4 von 5 Test zeigen meine Bandbreiten einbrüche an.
Es kann halt auch nicht sein das der Download komplett abbricht aber der Upload komplett normal ist.

Zu dem Test von Kundenportal. Wollt ihr eure Kunden eigendlich ***?
Dort steht leistung an ihrem Endgerät und ziegt dann die volle leistung an wärend andere Messungen was völlig anderes anzeigen? Wem wollt ihr das eigendlich verkaufen? Mir auf jedenfall nicht. Schön von euren Problemen ablenken genau wie dann bei der Technik die sagen unsere Messung zeigt aber bis zu ihrem endgerät ist alles gut. Villeicht kommen die bis zum Router mit ihrem Test aber NIEMALS zu meinem Endgerät zudem das dann auch Illegal wäre und ich diesem Endgerät test nicht zugestimmt habe. Also ich möchte euch bitten eure Bandbreitenmessung anzupassen das diese ECHTE werte angibt.

So nun zum Fazit und Anstöße dieses Problem zu lösen:
Fazit: Internet ist immer noch *** und dann wollt ihr mit 1GB/s werben? Lasst es besser wenn ihr euren jetzigen *** schon nicht richtig hinbekommt. Und an mir liegt dieses Problem oder Störung wie ihr es gerne nennt NICHT.
Lösungsvorschläge:
1: Mal ne richtige Messung der Signale und Ports und nicht dann wenn das Internet gerade gut läuft sondern zu stoßzeiten und dann wenn das Problem auftritt.
2: Dual Stack Lite überprüfen
3: Techniker rausschicken zu der zeit der besagten Störungswelle und den durchfluss messen. Sind Ports richtig angesteckt, Sind verstärker ausreichend da, sind die Glasfaserkabel defekt und mal nen bandbreitenmessungs test vom Kasten aus. Aber nicht nur auf den Vodafone server sondern auch mal zu einem LeaseWeb Server also anderen Servern (Randoms)
4: Mal nen Techniker zu mir in der zeit von 18Uhr bis 20Uhr. Das ihr mal seht das ich keinen *** laber

Unter anderem auch mal euren DNS und DHCP Server warten und dort die einträge überprüfen. Läuft jeder Kunde auf dem richtigen Port wurden dort drosselungen angemerkt und so weiter. Die Techniker sollten die Prozessur eigendlich verstehen.

So in dem Sinne hoffe ich das mir hier mal richtiger Support geleistet wird seitens Vodafone weil die Hotline bekommt es ja nicht geschissen!
Ansonsten mach ichs mal wie ihr. Ich überweise im Monat nur den Prozentsatz den ich Abends von euch reinbekomme. Das wird euch sicher auch nicht schmecken.

In dem Sinne bleibt alle Gesund und passt auf euch auf.
Und Schönmal ein Fettes Danke an die Die mir versuchen zu helfen sich der sache annehmen und es am ende Sogar auch schaffen 🙂

Mfg.: EliteBaer alias. Pascal

PowerShell Breitbandmessung:
Zu beachten die Uhrzeit ist in Zulu angegeben. Wir haben in Deutschland die MEZ Also bitte +1H draufrechnen bei der uhrzeit.

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ERFD
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Hallo EliteBaer,

 

der Knoten in und um Pirmasens ist in der Hauptzeit stark ausgelastet. Laut der aktuellen Planung, soll der Bereich im April 2020 entlastet werden. Gern können wir Dir 50% auf den Preis für den Telefon/Internetanschluss erlassen, bis die Arbeiten abgeschlossen sind.

 

Gruß Fred

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EliteBaer
Digitalisierer
Digitalisierer

Einen kleinen zusatz noch.

Der Speedtest geht über den ganzen tag. Anfangs ist der Download noch normal.
Erst gegen 3/4 fängt die Downloadrate einzubrechen.

Also bitte keine Kommentare wie dein Download geht doch voll klar.

Das klingt sehr nach einer Segmentauslastung.

 

Gruß Kurt

Bitte keine Anfragen über PN stellen!

17:54Uhr Einbrüche wieder enorm. und das bei einer 400MB/s leitung.
Das ist einfach nicht mehr tragbar!

 

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Hallo Kurt

Eine Segmentauslastung seit Jahren? Und dann noch JEDEN Abend?
Das es Abends etwas schwankt und ich nicht volle 400MB/s bekomme ist mir klar.
Aber hier nicht mal mehr 5% meiner Leistung das ist ne frechheit.
Vodafone sollte hier an der stelle wirklich nachbessern. Werben für eine 1GB/s leitung können aber ihre jetzigen Standarts nicht erfüllen.

Also, wenn es "nur" jeden Abend und am Wochenende ist, deutet es sehr stark auf eine Segmentauslastung hin.

 

Gruß Kurt

Bitte keine Anfragen über PN stellen!

Ich habe es bis jetzt "NUR" Abends bemerkt da ich beruflich bedingt unter der Woche nicht Zuhause bin und mich dort auf die aussage meines Vaters verlasse.

Aber auf einem Server von mit zuhause läuft das Skript jetzt einen ganzen Monat ab gestern und dan prüfe ich das mal nach.

Denoch sollte daran gearbeitet werden und das ASAP. Es kann nicht sein nach einem Ausbau der Glasfasern das dass Internet so einbrüche hat. Selbst in Firmennetzwerken oder bei anderen Freunden die Auch vodafone haben ist dies nicht der fall. Warum also bei uns hier in der gegend?
Die leute sind nunmal Abends im internet, Arbeiten oder wollen Spiele Spielen (Zocken) und das ist mit einer Leistung die Schlechter ist wie mit meinem Mobiltelefon einfach untragbar.

Wo anders gehts ja auch also muss es hier auch funktionieren.

So nachdem ich hier noch bissel rumgestöbert habe, habe ich diesen Post gesehen:
https://forum.vodafone.de/t5/St%C3%B6rungsmeldungen-Internet-TV/Netz-abends-sehr-langsam-Kreis-S%C3%... 

Ich hänge auch an dem Knotenpunkt Pirmasens.
Abhilfe sollte sehr schnell geschaffen werden!
Ich sehe es nicht mehr ein den VOLLEN Preis zu zahlen für einen Vertrag der seitens Vodafone NICHT eingehalten wird! Wie kann mir Vodafone also entgegen kommen? Macht mir angebote und ich werde schauen ob ich damit einverstanden bin.

Ansonsten gebe ich Vodafone die Frist von 2 Wochen das Problem zu lösen und bei nichtlösung werde ich meine eigenen massnahmen treffen! unter anderem nur den Prozentsatz zu zahlen der mir an leistung bereit gestellt wird.

Mfg

ERFD
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Hallo EliteBaer,

 

der Knoten in und um Pirmasens ist in der Hauptzeit stark ausgelastet. Laut der aktuellen Planung, soll der Bereich im April 2020 entlastet werden. Gern können wir Dir 50% auf den Preis für den Telefon/Internetanschluss erlassen, bis die Arbeiten abgeschlossen sind.

 

Gruß Fred

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Hallo @ERFD 

Danke für diese Antwort.
Was wird genau unternommen um dieses Problem bis April 2020 zu bendigen?

Und mit den 50% erlass darauf können wir uns gerne einigen. Das ist mal ein entgegen kommen.

Ich danke ihnen das Sie die erste Person ist die hier mal klare antworten gibt und nicht immer drum herum redet.
Dann werde ich das so in dem anderen Thread auch weitergeben das es bis April 2020 gelöst sein wird.

Aber wie sieht es bei dennen aus mit den 50% auf den Preis? Und warum wurde das nicht schon seitens Vodafone gemacht als ds Problem bekannt wurde? warum muss man sich immer erst aufregen?
Wäre vlt so als kleiner tipp für die zukunft gleich zu reagieren mit Offenen karten zu spielen und dann auch im system vermerken das diese einen Rabatt bekommen. Kann man ja alles im system verallgemeinern wenn man weis das ein Knotenpunkt betroffen ist.

Mfg